{"id":1892,"date":"2021-09-11T10:00:16","date_gmt":"2021-09-11T08:00:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/episode-4-holger-rothaug-in-a-podcast-interview-on-agile-transformation\/"},"modified":"2021-11-11T11:44:37","modified_gmt":"2021-11-11T10:44:37","slug":"episode-4-holger-rothaug-in-a-podcast-interview-on-agile-transformation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/en\/episode-4-holger-rothaug-in-a-podcast-interview-on-agile-transformation\/","title":{"rendered":"Episode 4: Holger Rothaug in a podcast interview on agile transformation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container fusion-parallax-none nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling lazyload\" style=\"background-color: rgba(255,255,255,0);background-position: center center;background-repeat: no-repeat;border-width: 0px 0px 0px 0px;border-color:#eae9e9;border-style:solid;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;\" data-bg=\"https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/titel-head-01-01.jpg\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start\" style=\"max-width:1248px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\" style=\"background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;\"><style type=\"text\/css\">@media only screen and (max-width:768px) {.fusion-title.fusion-title-1{margin-top:10px!important; 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Holger Rothaug (CARIAD)\" src=\"https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/thumbnail_4.png\" data-orig-src=\"https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/thumbnail_4.png\" class=\"lazyload img-responsive wp-image-1539\" srcset=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns%3D%27http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F2000%2Fsvg%27%20width%3D%271280%27%20height%3D%27720%27%20viewBox%3D%270%200%201280%20720%27%3E%3Crect%20width%3D%271280%27%20height%3D%27720%27%20fill-opacity%3D%220%22%2F%3E%3C%2Fsvg%3E\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/thumbnail_4-200x113.png 200w, https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/thumbnail_4-400x225.png 400w, https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/thumbnail_4-600x338.png 600w, https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/thumbnail_4-800x450.png 800w, https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/thumbnail_4-1200x675.png 1200w, https:\/\/living-transformation.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/thumbnail_4.png 1280w\" data-sizes=\"auto\" data-orig-sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, (max-width: 576px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/span><\/div><\/div><style type=\"text\/css\">.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-1{width:40% !important;margin-top : 0px;margin-bottom : 20px;}.fusion-builder-column-1 > .fusion-column-wrapper {padding-top : 0px !important;padding-right : 0px !important;margin-right : 4.8%;padding-bottom : 0px !important;padding-left : 0px !important;margin-left : 4.8%;}@media only screen and (max-width:768px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-1{width:100% !important;order : 0;}.fusion-builder-column-1 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}@media only screen and (max-width:576px) {.fusion-body .fusion-builder-column-1{width:100% !important;order : 0;}.fusion-builder-column-1 > .fusion-column-wrapper {margin-right : 1.92%;margin-left : 1.92%;}}<\/style><\/div><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-2 fusion_builder_column_3_5 3_5 fusion-flex-column fusion-flex-align-self-center\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-center fusion-content-layout-column\" style=\"background-position:left top;background-repeat:no-repeat;-webkit-background-size:cover;-moz-background-size:cover;-o-background-size:cover;background-size:cover;padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\">\n<div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\">\n<p>In our fourth episode of Living Transformation, Holger Rothaug is our guest on the podcast interview.<\/p>\n<p>Holger goes into the transparency, focus and moods within the Living Transformation in his own organization. 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